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horsewoman
02-16-2009, 01:20 PM
ok i have a client that would like to have me go to her house and train on her horses for 2 days. She has a spare room for me to stay in and im sure shes supplying 3 meals on day one and 2 on day 2. Other than my fuel charge what should i charge for training her horses at her property?? She has 3 or 4 riding horses and 2 yearling or 2 yo horses that will just be worked on the ground.
The plan was to work everthing in the am on the ground and then after dinner work the riding horses under saddle.
This would be for both days agenda.
THANKS
smurphy0806
02-16-2009, 01:43 PM
I would probably charge two-thirds to 1 times a months worth of training for 1 horse. You are going to be there for 2 days, and work 6 horses. Which means your going to work 12 "times." Generally if you work 6 days a week you work a horse 24-26 times a month... less if you work 5 days, and more if you work 7 days.
Not to mention you are giving this client a luxury service by coming to her house.
I would say two thirds times the "normal" price to train 1 horse for 1 month or even the "normal" one month price is more than fair.
But I'm not a trainer. I'm coming from the owners standpoint.
horsewoman
02-16-2009, 02:11 PM
so i generaly charge $15 per working... generaly run 1 hour from tack up, warm up, work, to cool down, un tack. Its approx 30 minutes of "work" time. I work horses 5 days per week unless they need more... so 20 days. So on average $300 per month is my training fees.
So your saying $200 for working all 6 horses twice. Plus expenses. food, fuel, sleeping arrangments.
Thats about what i was thinking. I was thinking $50 per riding horse & $25 per non riding horse. So that would be $225 plus expenses. Since i would be working them twice in one day it would be alittle less than what i would normaly charge per hour of working. Plus the owner would be learning what i do when i train her horse at my house. So thats a plus for her. Humm... maybe i should charge $60 & $30 as shes "learning" and taking lessons on the riding horses as well.
THANKS for your help.
Skyduck
02-16-2009, 03:28 PM
Is this going to be only 2 days a week? Having trained when I was younger I can tell you that 2 days a week probably isn't going to get you great results which could then lead to your customer being disappointed. I always showed my customers what I was doing to train their horses but they still didn't seem to be able to do most of it themselves. Once in a while I would have one that could do the work but not often. Hope it works out for you.
horsewoman
02-16-2009, 03:47 PM
no i would just be going to their place once ever other month or so. And will be at their place 2 days.
vlayne
02-16-2009, 03:53 PM
Will someone be working the horses in between?
If not, I wouldn't bother with it.
And working a horse 2x in one day doesn't always bring the desired results. Depends on the horse... but if they aren't in shape to handle it, you might be traveling backwards. :ninja:
horsewoman
02-16-2009, 04:04 PM
Yes the owner rides her horses 2-5 days per week and usually works them on the ground 1-2 days per week as well. So the horses are worked in some form a minimum of 2 days per week.
The first working would only be ground work and most of it will be refreshing respect and desensitation of spookie object so they are more Ammy friendly as all my horses are when they go back home. So they will only be walking and trotting for 15 minutes and probalby only be actualy worked from tack up to put up 45 minutes.
If they cant handle 2 workings then they wont be worked twice.
mskyar
02-16-2009, 05:17 PM
I think a flat rate per day is the way to go, like judging which is a flat rate plus expenses....and if it was me it would probably be $100 per day, since she will be feeding and putting you up and your only expense is gas, $100 seems fair. And it would balance out with each time you go there, sometimes you may not do as much, and other times you may do more.
LLavery
02-17-2009, 07:51 AM
Horsewoman,
As I do this several times a week for different clients, I have enclosed a link to my rates. As with anything else, multiple days, regular scheduled visits, groups or clinic situations are all subject to negotiation as are expenses. I hope this is of some help.
LF Lavery
http://askthetraineronline.com/details.html
horsewoman
02-17-2009, 09:48 AM
WOW that was GREAT Help!!!!
So since im not a nationaly known trainer/Judge then if i charged $125 per day for as many horses as they have then i wouldnt be that far off. Plus my expenses.
LLavery
02-17-2009, 12:56 PM
Horsewoman,
Whatever rate you decide on will be fine so long as you remember that your talent is not only a gift but along with your experience, it is like a college education called horses 101. As a trainer, you have a great deal of wisdom to impart, it will take your time from your other endeavors and take you away from "home". Do not sell yourself too short!
Glad it was of some help. Best of luck.
LF Lavery
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